I don't think Russia is going to give permissions for such things. But, but ..
We are rather better off, by getting a blanket permission to "improve" AL-31FP, indigenously, part-by-part (especially the Core) - which can result in an, say, AL-31FP-MKI.
This permission is not so much towards asking for better materials or better casting/forging/welding/coating tech etc, but more towards prevention of invalidating the OEM warranty for the rest of the TF, when such replacements are being made by us. Sufficient indigenous TF D&D capability already exists with us, to achieve something like this.
If indeed our R&D is capable of such replacement, we should have a stealth program to iteratively change things on AL-31FP and after our own testing, fly them on Su-30 MKI. Maybe the engine electronic controller has to be reversed engineered to get optimal performance. The craft has two engines, just replace 1 engine with the new Indian engine and test fly. This has to be done under the radar, without anyone squealing on the program. BTW the chinese perhaps did just that to reverse engineer Soviet/Rus maal.
One of the outcome of such reverse engineering is to create an Indian version perhaps not quite the same as the orginal but suitable for engines like Kaveri.
bala saar,
back to square 1 again.
Its not about "getting permission", and it's also not about being "nice", and besides who are we really going to offend, because everyone and his/her uncle knows that we are desperate
the cheen never got "permission" from the very first time they stole and copied the early MiGs to now when they are copying russki and western engines, stealing from wherever they can and whenever they can, and they don't understand the meaning of being "nice"
They bought out in its entirety, the israeli lavi project + engineering data, drawings and all of the related stuff, lock stock, and barrel, from them
playing nice and getting permission has got us zilch, as far as, the engine is concerned but we have done well in nuclear submarine building, warships, nuclear power tech, space and other fields and we have found technology partners who have helped us clear hurdles and refine our designs and dare one point out that they are all mostly russki
just get to work on the engine and use resources from wherever available. Not advocating theft or industrial espionage per se, but do not reject it outright. If the opportunity presents itself, let this not be a constraint
This kaveri record has played long enough and that tune has turned screechy a long time ago.
By all means, keep the kaveri project open but at the same time try and open some other avenues to address the roadblocks that were encountered and use a new team to do this, a team that will not be constrained by permissions or even being nice.
Look at all the powerplants being used in India and see if any tech used there can be of help to us.
We are well within our rights to explore options and if possible reverse engineer from the examples that are already familiar to us. If we can integrate this into the kaveri, nothing like it
there are rumours that are they outsourcing the A/B to a missile making company...... that kind of thinking is not just beyond logic but also idiotic.
The harder India pushes for the engine TOT, the more the goras will close ranks
Statistics: Posted by chetak — 14 Mar 2025 10:35