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Military Issues & History Forum • Re: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - 24 July 2021

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Shambles all round, Starting from the 15 step 5 year process to get anything approved.

15 years to upgrade 5-6 squadrons of a machine we have been producing with supposed "ToT" for the last two decades and a half

Super Sukhoi plans have been around for the last decade so to think another 7 years for R&D & Testing is quite ridiculous imo

And even once that is done I can't see why it will take them another 8 years for 84 upgrades.. Our competition churns out 30-40 of new Jets a year and we can't even upgrade one squadron per year?
Oh man, 15years for implementing a 84 aircraft upgrade ... :roll:

Betw isn't this upgrade only strictly limited to avionics - i.e. no structural changes like Fin/Wings/Canard/V Stabiliser/LG Bay doors etc replacement by Carbon Fiber Composites, no FBW (on offer from the OEM) introduction, no new Engine (AL-41F on offer by OEM) etc - pure avionics upgrade, and maybe some structural life extension aspects (not sure).

Then why on earth will it take 7 years for R&D and Certification, followed by 8 years to implement the upgrades to 84 airframe (so @7-8airframes/year).

Call me stupid, but is there some sort of unitary method at work here - I mean 50 M2K Upgrade took 10+ years (2011 - 2021 planned, but actually 2023/2024), so a 84 Su-30 will take 15years!! :twisted:
What exactly is the point in upgrading 30% of the fleet, over 15 years, by which time the remaining 70% would be up for retirement?

Must be something in it, that has not been publicly revealed yet.

Statistics: Posted by maitya — 24 Jul 2024 14:07



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